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PostSubject: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:37 am

Please please every body heed the warnings regarding heatstroke
A 5 yr old Saint Bernard belonging to someone I know needlessly died yesterday while in the back of their van in the scorching heat.
There is no excuse for any animal to die this way
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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:47 am

my vet saw 7 over the weekend all dead now
its such a shame
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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:26 am

poor poor boy, so very sad, an awful way to die, it's very sad if it was an avoidable trip, may he rest in peace xxxx

I have witnessed a dog die of heatstroke at work, and it truly is a horrendous thing to see Sad Sad Sad

we have to be so so careful in this heat, and if it means that the dogs don't get walked then so be it, our two yesterday were panting their asses off in the house, and they'd not even been out, luckily our house is pretty cool, all blinds and fans, they did get a walk but not until 9.30 last night, and it was really enjoyable, a nice cool breeze.
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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:55 am

I will be clipping out the undercarriages of the dogs we do show & completely clip out the poor preggers Millie.
We clipped Odin's undercarriage & it really helped
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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:35 am

I was going to keep out of any discussion on this matter, but can no longer control my typing fingers!
I agree with Kathy whole heartedly. The dog in question was known to be unwell, so who in their right mind would undertake such a journey on the hottest day of the year. The weather forecasters for the last few days have been right about the weather, so this should have been sufficient warning. As I have mentioned elsewhere, a well known breeder of Newfoundlands was prosecuted a few years ago and lost everything!
Our dogs rely on us totally for their well-being and their welfare should be paramount. We are their guardians. I cannot get this poor dog out of my mind and hope he did not suffer.
Like Heather, I have clipped the fronts and bellies of our dogs, which does give them some relieve. The hosepipe is out regularly cooling them down and thank god we have tiled floors everywhere.
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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:20 pm

i dont know who you are all taking about but i dont need to ,to be able to say what a idiot! if your reading this and it was you i think what you did comes under animal abuse Evil or Very Mad

as said its upto us to look after our dogs they dont drive us to shows we drive them!

as for not being able to stop on a motorway thats crap! aat some point very soon after there would be somewhere to stop and yes to me it is a emergency and i would stop anywhere if need be!

it sounds to me like the said person has the showing bug and wanted a rosette to add to the collection at any cost
well done if you got one was it worth it to loose your dog

arrrrrrrrr
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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:23 pm

rant overish!

to clip a dog would you then be ok to show it? where exactly would you start and stop and is this only roughs?

i think daisy would love a grade zero about now ! suncream at the ready !

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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:28 pm

then she should have called the "collector" to her and enjoyed what time she had left

or even called a vet to do a call out and collect it?

so getting semen was more important than a happy comfortable dog for its last few hours with her?



weve many times pulled over either when potty trainig the kids or the dogs barking mad for a wee or even morning sickness it can be done pretty much anywhere ok its a risk but it needed to be done if she had broke down she would have stopped where she was without chioce but with choice she choose not too!
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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:38 pm

depending on the illness your right it wouldnt have been good idea

and not to have water is such a stupid mistake

i dont blame you for cancelling dora was sound asleep for a good few hours after and its not asif hip scoring is a medical emergency!

i think your very wise
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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:41 pm

what was the dog dying from?
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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:43 pm

Hi Cheri,

I never clip our roughs all over - only their fronts and bellies with a 30 clipper blade and keep their featherings and their trousers and skirts short and no, they would not be shown like this.

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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:48 pm

Wow! All I can muster is Wow!

There are sooo many aspects to this that are so shocking and appalling!

The only things that come to mind are "flaming" statements.... So I'll just keep my mouth shut.
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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:51 pm

the people who protest inocence so loudly are always the ones who lie!

id love to know who she is who the dog is and what it was dying of????

then what treatment it was getting for the illness and how tht would affect the sperm?

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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:06 pm

This is quite simply APPALLING!!

The simple fact of the matter is that we are, as Karen put it so well, completely responsible for our dogs. This owner needs some fundamental training in the responsibilities of canine ownership if she doesn't have the humanity or common sense to do what is right for the dogs in her care. Dogs are sentient beings and NOT, NOT, NOT commodities. WE are the priviliged ones to have their companionship - not vice versa. I could go on...

We have to be SO careful in these temperatures. Hannibal had a vet appointment on Tuesday afternoon in the scorching heat. I took 12 pints of water with us, put a wet towel under him (Cheri's suggestion) and had all the windows and sunroof of the estate open. The journey was 1/2 hour each way. Even with these precautions he was tired out when we got home. The vet asked me to trot him up and down outside and I had to refuse on the grounds that it would be too dangerous. I did trot him gently in the air conditioned waiting room.

We are still walking Han in the mornings but only because he just loves diving down into the river, getting thoroughly wet and then having an amble in the shade. This morning I drove him the few hundred yards up the road to the river because the walk along the road is in full sun. I then leave him pretty damp and he seems content to either rest in the shade or come in and flop on the tiles by his fan.

I'm not saying that I get things right for Han all the time but I hope that I think things through, recognise and assess his needs and do my best for him - oh yes, and love him to bits!!

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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:43 pm

Does a/c not come standard in the vehicles in the UK?

My A/C in the SUV blow ice cold air and mine are quite comfortable going everywhere with me as long as I dont have to stop. If I have to get out of the car and they cant come with me, they dont go. I am just having a really hard time wrapping my mind around this whole thing!

I stopped walking mine after we went to the yard sales (like a boot sale but in your front yard) and the driveways were too hot and burning their pads. I took them home and put on their shoes to go back out and it wasn't even that warm out. They wont get walked again til their Ruffwear Swamp Coolers get here.(although today i may walk them as the temps have been quite nice, its only 19°c right now)
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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:48 pm

aircon is not standard
we have aircon and it works ok but a vans aircon isnt enough

we can take one dog safely in the car with aircon without it getting hot at all

however to move a few dogs in a van is a very hard job without alot of kit!

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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:54 am

http://mydogiscool.com/

http://mydogiscool.com/downloads/MDIC_flier-bw.pdf for flyers to put on peoples cars.

http://www.spca.bc.ca/animalissues/hot%20dogs%20flyer_2006.pdf (heres the one for °c the British Columbia SPCA)

I print out a few and stick them on the windshields of peoples cars that have dogs in them at the car parks.
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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:25 am

Cant keep qiet any longer lol that is an unbelievable story this person should be prosecuted for cruelty as thats what it boils down to they were making the journey to make money out of a sick poor defenceless animal absoloutly ridic!!!! Its beyond comprehension in my world cos here my dogs are my world and would not have put them through that. Our saint ellie took ill when we were travelling back from kelso last year and we were towing a carvan on narrow roads but we stopped and put the 4 way flashers on i didnt care we were causing a traffic build up but my dogs health comes first.


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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:27 pm

I really don't understand those people.
I feel so sorry for that poor dog.
Here in Holland we had very hot weather to the whole week, and I have cancelled a show that I had yesterday.
It was 3 hours drive, and it was a show outside whit this hot weather.
So we stayed at home.

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PostSubject: Re: HEAT STROKE   Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:54 am

I won't say any more on the tragic incident that started this post - I think we are all equally appalled at what has happened.
I am looking for a bit of advice on clippers. I have never clipped my dogs (Scottish weather doesn't normally require it !). However this year in view of the temperatures, I would like to remove some hair from my oldest Saint girl Molly and my rogue Newfie Kaitlyn. Can anyone recommend good reasonably priced clippers and what size of blade is best for long hair ? I think Karen says she uses a 30 ?
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