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PostSubject: age of a breeding bitch   Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:39 pm

the kc has its rules on what age you can breed a st bernard from and what age until

these i do not agree with

what age do you breed from and until how many litters do you say is the max for a bitch

if a bitch has her first season very late say at 18months would you breed at the first season

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PostSubject: Re: age of a breeding bitch   Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:36 pm

We generally use the '18mths or 3rd season' rule. Its not written, just a guide to breeding from a bitch.

I would have only 3 litters max from ONE bitch, providing her health etc are good, but not over the age of 5years old personally, UNLESS there were good grounds (i.e last of a line with not much comming from her previous litters & she is in good health & fit).

The KC give a rough guide & say 8yrs tops, but for a saint that is too old Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: age of a breeding bitch   Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:20 am

do you think theres a age where a bitch is too old for her first litter??

just trying to see if others have the same views as me

i agree with everything you said in the previous post
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PostSubject: Re: age of a breeding bitch   Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:32 am

Well if its a first litter then really 4yrs tops i would say, but if its her 2nd or 3rd litter then 5 - 5 1/2yrs.

The breeding 'life' span of a female saint is not very long, considering 'we say' she needs to be around 18mths before she has a first litter, then you have roughly 3 - 4years in which you can breed from her (its not long considering say a rottie who you could breed from alot longer as their lifespan much longer). Within that rough 4 years you need to give her 'time off' & also deal with 'missed' matings (i.e shes been mated, but not pregnant). so in all its not that long a time span we have.
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PostSubject: Re: age of a breeding bitch   Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:28 pm

In Norway the bitch must be two years old , elbows and hips x-rayed with max. D / medium. Before she has her first litter. I think they can breed until they are 8 years old.
My bitch had her first litter in april-09 at the age of almost 5 years. We have mated her earlier, but she did`nt get pregnant until now. She was in good shape before she was mated, and after the pups arrived she really bloomed Very Happy If she still is in good shape next year, it`s possible that we will mate her once more. But after that she is retired ! I think 8 years is too old for a Saint to have puppies .
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PostSubject: Re: age of a breeding bitch   Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:00 am

Anne wrote:
In Norway the bitch must be two years old , elbows and hips x-rayed with max. D / medium.

Who's requirements are those? Government or KC standards? I wish the AKC would adopt those standards.
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PostSubject: Re: age of a breeding bitch   Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:27 am

It is the KC`s standards .....
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PostSubject: Re: age of a breeding bitch   Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:19 am

A bitch which cycles twice a year is considered to be on a normal interval of cycles. A bitch can season as early as 6 months to as late as almost 2 years. Most saint bitches experience their first season between 10 and 14 months – more specifically 11 to 13 months. In this regard, a member of the SBCA is to abide by the rules that states breeders should breed a bitch no less than 18 months of age. But to fully engage in breeding a bitch the owner of the bitch must feel the bitch is mature enough to mentally and physically whelp the litter. Some bitches might not be mature in the regard of mentality by three years of age, while oddly others by the age of 18 months can act mature. A bitch bred to young can be immature, which will cause you a lot of work in the whelping room not to mention being a risk around the pups - as well as a young bitch may not be fully developed to evaluate its health (hip, elbow, hock, eyes, epilepsy, thyroid etc). However, a bitch that ovulates three times a year causes a problem – by the time she is 5 her uterus will be in the condition of a 7 to 8 year old bitch. Consulting with a repo vet in the case of having a bitch that cycles so much might suggest breeding the bitch younger and or putting her on a drug to extend the duration of the time between cycles. In the matter of your second Q - breeding a bitch based on the number of litters she can whelp throughout her lifetime that is a matter of the bitch’s ability to recover after her litters and her mothering capabilities – and most importantly her health. However, breeding bitches to often and back to back can result in the phenom of not being fully aware of selecting the appropriate sire for the next litter since the pups from the previous litter are not mature enough to substantively evaluate both confirmationally and also their healthiness.

I would start off by doing a couple things, such as:
(1) Consult with at least two experienced breeders, most importantly the dams mother’s breeder
(2) Is your bitch ready, health, mental?
(3) Are you ready come due time of the litter?
(4) Consult with your vet and a repo vet [repo = reproductive specialist]
(5) Select a good sire, look around if that means shipping semen
(6) Prepare in the matter of constructing the whelping area, progesterone testing/breeding, setting up a time if a c-section need be – and be prepared financially.
(7) Have a clean area for the pups that’s dry and warm.
(Cool Know how to bottle feed, have a milk formula on hand.
(9) Sterilize and wash hands and cloths to keep the area sanitized
(10) Do not allow others around the pups until they have at least on vaccination.

Good luck!

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PostSubject: Re: age of a breeding bitch   Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:54 pm

Hi John
Sue from New Zealand your breeding practice and the procedures are practically identical to ours, some bitches at a young age are just not ready for the mum thing and yes they can cause alot of stress on the puppies and yourself if they are not settled . I think over a period of years you can identfy these traits and know when and when not to use the bitch.

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